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The Grotto by nukeation The Grotto by nukeation
I had the sudden inspiration to create this.

Took me about half an hour to get the scene set up, half an hour of test renders, and the final render took about 18 minutes at "Superior" settings.

I was getting impatient when it took 18 minutes to render. Am I spoiled? :XD:

Enjoy! Made entirely in Vue 7 with HyperTerrains (tutorial: [link])
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DARKROLANDO Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
did you draw this or just edit the pic?
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The-Pwnisher Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2010
haha, yea dude. I renndered something and it took 4 days!!! Then on the last two hours of the home strech of the render the powere flickered and I lost my render!
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riknard Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2010
You're getting a little exposure due to Wetbanana's DD... this is on one of his homepage frames.

Comes a time, and soon, I think, that we won't be able to tell a digital photograph from a digital render. I can 'hear' the splashing of the wavelets echoing in the grotto... 'smell' the salty air, assuming it's ocean and not a large freshwater lake.

And for the algae-phobes... some algae is edible, like pond scum, or so the survivor books tell us... I haven't tried it myself, and would have to be very hungry to do so.

Great image, if that didn't come thru before :]
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AntonyBanderos Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi! Excellent work!

I have Core i7 860 & 4Gb memory DDR3 too. But my render time is too much, about 4,5 hour (I used Global Radiosity and Final render preset). That is the problem?
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nukeation Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2009
Thanks. There is a difference between a 965 and 860 when it comes to timing, so it could be that. At the same time, it depends on how complex your scene is and the scale of the scene. It is too detailed to go into here (and I wouldn't be able to say much without seeing the actual scene itself) but I will be covering performance optimization in my upcoming book.
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AntonyBanderos Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi! Thank you fo the reply!
I think, you are using "re-use indirect lightin" checkbox on!
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nukeation Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2010
No, I don't like to use that. Sometimes if you forget to refresh it when you have changed something in the scene, it creates very distorted lighting artifacts.
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AntonyBanderos Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think, this is the key to make your render time shorter!!!
At first, when your scene is finished, you make 1 render with small resolution (320x200). Vue saved a radiosity map automaticly.
Then, you can make resolution biger 1600x 1000, choose Ultra render quality preset and turn on "Re-use indirect lighting". This will be your final render. Just check it!
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nukeation Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2010
Trust me, I know Vue inside out and I'm writing an advanced techniques book on it. The radiosity map is limited by resolution it is being rendered at. You lose a lot of detail (over 70%, I'd say) when you use a 320 map for a 1600 render.
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AntonyBanderos Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thancs so much! I wonna loock at your new book!!! I"ll be your first reader! How many pages in it? When you finish the book?
Where you learn Vue?
My Skype name is antonybanderos, my ICQ 416774139
I'm glad to correspond with you!
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nukeation Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2010
Keep watching my journal, I'll post more info when the book goes out (probably in a month at most). I'm not allowed to provide details about the book right now, but I can tell you that it is the most advanced book ever written for Vue. :) I learnt Vue by myself. Have been using it for some years now. :)
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Trepz Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
MAN !!!

I bet this took a lifetime and a half to render...
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nukeation Featured By Owner Oct 17, 2009
Not really. As it says in the description - 18 minutes. :)
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DistinctGore Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2009  Student Digital Artist
Haha, I sit there and just wish I knew how to even start to make something like that in Vue :(

Wonderful as usual :D
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nukeation Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2009
Thanks so much :D
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edlo Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Well done man well done
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shtl Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Wow! Very very nice rocks indeed. And very nice render.
Love the feel in it, water looks so refreshing, makes me wanna dive! =D
Didn't yet study your tut but thanks for the share, sure it'll be usefull soon or later.
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nukeation Featured By Owner Jun 29, 2009
Thanks so much. :D
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Wetbanana Featured By Owner May 28, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
this is just plain cool! I love the water and super dooper quick render time
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nukeation Featured By Owner May 30, 2009
Thank you :D
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TiB69 Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2009
nuke, amazing as usual! Love the composition, the colours the wonderful lighting. Very kool indeed.

However you must stop rubbing in your render times, not kool dood, some of us have to wait around for hrs/days/weeks to get nowhere near as good renders as u. (partly due to lack of skill perhaps but i'll carry on blaming my PC, makes me feel much better !)
For example this: [link] took 9hrs. Granted my PC is old and the scene is essentialy in a dense cloud but still...

Anyway your envyable (sp?) PC is matched by your skill with Vue!
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nukeation Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2009
LOL! Sorry. I'll stop bragging about my render times. :D

Thank you!

And I love that render. Very cool work!
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TiB69 Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2009
Nuke, I'm framing that comment!

Coming from you this is high praise indeed. Love all your tutorials and work!
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nukeation Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2009
Thank you. :) I just saw [link] - and I think it is a really nice piece too! Keep up the great work. :)
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IAmTheArchitect Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2009
Yes. You are SOOOOO spoiled. o.o

Mine took 9 minutes to do the prepass on this! On final! And 2.5 hours to do all the rendering! DX

Give me your computer now. o.o
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nukeation Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2009
LOL! You'll need a 200 kiloton nuclear weapon before you can hijack my computer!! Love the clouds in your render, btw! Excellent job!
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IAmTheArchitect Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2009
Thanks! Means a lot coming from you. =P

And how do you know I don't have a 200 kiloton nuclear weapon in my garage? >.>
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nukeation Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2009
You think I'll take your word for something like that? You'll have to threaten me with the nuke at my doorstep before I give in!
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IAmTheArchitect Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2009
Lol incidentally I don't have a garage. =P
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IAmTheArchitect Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2009
It especially means a lot considering that was the first time I ever used Vue. And I just kinda figured it out. =P
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j0rosa Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2009  Professional Traditional Artist
wow, looks like a real place ;)
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nukeation Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2009
Thanks :)
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KrystalTrinity Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2009  Hobbyist General Artist
Beautiful. I'd love to go there! haha. All your work looks amazing :)
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nukeation Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2009
I'll be selling tour tickets next week. :XD:

Thanks!
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Xela02 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2009  Student General Artist
Amazing work ! :clap: :aww:
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nukeation Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2009
Thank you! :)
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Xela02 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2009  Student General Artist
You're welcome ! :D
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2753Productions Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Awesome! Gorgeous color, lighting & a VERY realistic luminescence to the water... Awesome shadows as well (indirect skylighting turned off?)
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nukeation Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2009
Thanks, Scott!

No, I had Indirect Skylighting turned on. Used a little bit of negative gain, if I remember.
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2753Productions Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Ahhh - okay I have never tried the negative gain yet lol. Very welcome :D
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KeremGo Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
yes you are :D
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nukeation Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2009
:XD:
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Lee99 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Your masterful at getting realism ^^ There's something about white rocks and blue ocean that is pleasing to the imagination! good work!
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nukeation Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2009
Thanks so much! :D
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Lee99 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
No prob ^^
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yourgen Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2009
I thought this was a real photo at first! I was wondering, does Vue 7 allow you to do full animations, characters, and basically all the stuff you'd need to make a video game work (trees, birds, etc etc)? Also, how big can the scenes get? Can you do a whole mountain range with full details?
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nukeation Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2009
Thanks.

You can download a free learning edition at [link] if you'd like to try it out.

Vue can do only natural scenes, but it works with Poser for characters, etc. There is no limit to how large scenes can be. Check out my gallery to see some very large scale scenes. Vue is really good at making mountains, forests, clouds, etc.
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dmaland Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Incredible image! The "almost overblown but not really" sunlight is spectacular!
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nukeation Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2009
Thank you :)
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flightlevel-380 Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2009
Gorgeous work :)
Like all of yours ;)
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